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March 17th, 2003, 01:44 PM
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'Talking fish' stuns New York
Some Hasidic Jews reportedly believe people can be reincarnated as fish
A fish heading for slaughter in a New York market shouted warnings about the end of the world before it was killed, two fish cutters have claimed.
Zalmen Rosen, from the Skver sect of Hasidic Jews, says co-worker Luis Nivelo, a Christian, was about to kill a carp to be made into gefilte fish in the city's New Square Fish Market in January when it began shouting in Hebrew.
"It said 'Tzaruch shemirah' and 'Hasof bah'," Mr Rosen later told the New York Times newspaper.
"[It] essentially means [in Hebrew] that everyone needs to account for themselves because the end is nigh."
'It's the devil!'
Mr Nivelo told the paper he was so shocked he fell into a stack of slimy packing crates, before running in panic to the shop entrance and grabbing Mr Rosen, shouting: "The fish is talking!"
It is very rare that God reminds people he exists in this modern world. But when he does, you cannot ignore it
New York resident Abraham Spitz
However his co-worker reacted with disbelief.
"I screamed 'It's the devil The devil is here!', but Zalman said to me 'You crazy, you a meshugeneh [mad man]!" Mr Nivelo said.
A disbelieving Mr Rosen then rushed to the back of the store, only to hear the fish identifying itself as the soul of a local Hasidic man who had died the previous year.
It instructed him to pray and study the Torah, but Mr Rosen admitted that in a state of panic he attempted to kill the fish, injuring himself in the process and ending up in hospital.
The fish was eventually killed by Mr Nivelo and sold.
God in fish form?
Many members of the city's Jewish community are now certain that God, troubled by the prospect of war in Iraq, has revealed Himself in fish form.
Ah, enough already about the fish, I wish I never said anything about it
Zalmen Rosen
"Two men do not dream the same dream," said Abraham Spitz, a resident who visited Mr Rosen's shop to observe the site of the miracle.
"It is very rare that God reminds people he exists in this modern world. But when he does, you cannot ignore it."
The incident also relates to the beliefs of some Hasidic Jews, who say that righteous people can be reincarnated as fish, the British Observer newspaper reported.
New York story
Others are more sceptical, with New York comedians already incorporating the story into their stand-up routines and one fish company even contemplating changing its slogan to "our fish speak for themselves".
Mr Rosen also seems to have become rather tired of being questioned about his incredible experience.
"Ah, enough already about the fish," Mr Rosen said.
"I wish I never said anything about it. I'm getting so many calls every day, I've stopped answering. Israel, London, Miami, Brooklyn... they all want to hear about the talking fish."
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March 17th, 2003, 03:32 PM
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TastinGood
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March 17th, 2003, 10:33 PM
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i sincerely doubt that if god wanted to send a
message encouraging people blah blah blah....
it certainly wouldn't be in the form of a man's
soul reincarnated as a talking fish 20 seconds
before the fish is killed...
that's gay [img]graemlins/thumbs_down.gif[/img]
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March 18th, 2003, 03:06 AM
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And where's the link to the original URL? Was it "The Onion"?
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March 18th, 2003, 02:52 PM
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March 18th, 2003, 03:30 PM
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TastinGood
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the bbc? [img]confused.gif[/img]
that's like listing the national enquirer as your source.
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March 20th, 2003, 05:28 AM
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the BBC?
it's pretty okay, once you learn to read british.
English is.. well.. the home of sarcasm, hence the 'talking fish' . (note the ' thingies around it, it indicates sarcasm)
Ooh, what a coincidence, the name of the guy who found the fish is Zalmen Rosen.
Zalmen is dutch plural for salmon [img]smile.gif[/img]
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